so i know i said on my last post that might be my last i still have one more week till that.. but i want to say somethings untill i see if i can post still but what i want to say is i had to go to the 2017 jw convention and my aunt can be a ass hole sometimes im sorry that was the only thing i could think of.i started to listen to how she acts when talking to people at the convention or the kingdom hall she acts 2x has nice and never gets mad.. i just wanted to talk about this just something i picked up on..
Don't be too hard on your Aunt. Most people (including yourself) are on their best behavior when in public, and are in a better mood when around their friends or on special occasions. It's not just a JW thing.
What makes it difficult to take when it comes to JW's is that they use their loving behavior as proof that they are the true religion when really, they are like everyone else who have their good and bad qualities....good and bad moments of behavior.
i go to the local mcdonald's for a strong latte and raisin toast and i perched my feathers on a corner seat noticing a older european guy in a suit sitting by himself, so i move next to him and said it was warmer this chair.
i say you on business matters mate, he says ya but seemed only interested in his news paper.
i knew he was jw because jw assembly hall is not in a business district.
JW's don't like it when they are not the ones in the drivers seat. You clearly had control of the conversation and were bringing up points he no doubt had struggle with himself, in the past.
This is why JW's must not be around anyone but other JW's....it rattles them to hear anyone say out loud, the things they dare not think themselves.
i would like to state publicly, on this forum, i no longer hold the views i had a year ago.. with much thought, research, study and logical examination i have come to a better understanding of my beliefs and where i stand on all these issues.. i'm very happy to announce i have returned to healthful teaching of the holy scriptures and i firmly believe that the governing body of jehovah's witnesses is the faithful slave.. sorry if i have contibuted to any kind of stumbling and know that if i can turn things around then there's hope for all who come to there sence.. phill4:6,7.
With much thought, research, study and logical examination I have come to a better understanding of my beliefs and where I stand on all these issues.
I'm guessing the research and study was done via the Societies literature rather than a thorough examination that included information from outside sources. I wouldn't even buy a new a new car based solely on the information provided by the manufacturer. To make a sound decision, I'd need information from outside sources that had no vested interest in the outcome of my decision.
Sorry if I have
contibuted(contributed) to any kind of stumbling and know that if I can turn things around then there's hope for all who come to theresence.(sense)
To help undo the supposed damage you did to all those who read your posts on this forum, perhaps you could share exactly how you came to the conclusion that the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses are who they say they are. Even using their own literature, how does one possibly prove something so profoundly unprovable?
on my way into town from my office.
two carts set up a few feet from each other.
one manned by a man and woman (i assume they're a couple) in their late 30s.. the guys walks off to the other cart as im walking by, i wasn't going to approach but the woman holding the awake!
I tried to keep it short and polite and said "im an atheist, i dont like that the bible condones slavery..." The man became offended and quite annoyed in his tone "slavery? Where does the bible condone slavery?"
At that point a good little JW wife, out of respect for the men present, would have immediately put a head covering on and quoted this scripture to you. and reminded you that there's a difference between a servant and a slave Deut 15: 16-18
But if your servant says to you, “I do not want to leave you,” because he loves you and your family and is well off with you, 17 then take an awl and push it through his earlobe into the door, and he will become your servant for life. Do the same for your female servant.
"It shall not seem hard to you when you set him free, for he has given you six years with double the service of a hired man; so the LORD your God will bless you in whatever you do.…
in my stand up comedy routine tonight i want to list humourous reasons why i shd go back to jws.. how about nobody throws parties like jws.. how about jws being at the cutting edge of fashion.. how about it being easier for men to get a date.. any ideas?.
paul.
Reasons to go back:
born ins are in a unique position in that we never knew any other way of life.
no birthdays, christmas and overly superstitious family just seemed normal.
when my parents talked about their pre-jw life it seemed like they were talking about completely different people (actually, that's true, the cult had taken their real selves).. so i'd be interested in hearing how your parents were indoctrinated.. my dad.
My parents, in their mid 20's came to the U.S. from Europe for better opportunities for themselves and us kids. They left all of their family and friends behind.
Some nice JW' ladies came to call on my lonely mother. They offered her friendship, family and everlasting life. The door to all of the opportunities in terms of higher education, jobs, holidays, sports, life experiences for themselves and us kids, was slammed shut from that point on.
My Father never got baptized but studied for years and died from not taking a blood transfusion during a surgery. Everything he knew about the topic of blood transfusion, was learned from JW's during his Bible study with them. A short time after he died (horribly) the JW's decided that blood fractions were acceptable. In his case, the use of blood fractions would have surely saved him. The decision to allow the use of blood fractions because they weren't considered blood, would have tipped him off that these ordinary men, don't know what they are talking about and that maybe he should take medical direction from highly trained medical professionals instead.
on sunday morning in the watchtower study, a "study" who was their for the 1st time put his hand up and said; "i have a question.
when the paragraph says give up everything, it doesn't really mean give up everything like the pearl merchant, does it, like be willing to lose my modest house, cheap car and other basics i own?
i mean, that sounds a bit much".. the watchtower conductor said in response; "no, it's just a parable and it doesn't mean give up everything.
I wouldn't say it was a lie...the question just wasn't answered very thoroughly.
In this instance, I understand the word "everything" to indicate that you'd do whatever it took to remain as a subject of God's Kingdom and the word everything indicates the importance of the matter. For some, it may only take modest adjustments in their lives but for others it may take drastic changes for them to remain subjects of God's kingdom (ie: selling belongings, changing jobs etc). The idea being conveyed is that one would be ready to make any sacrifice necessary, to remain in God's Kingdom.
could the teaching that jesus is michael the archangel, be soon to be discarded?
first of all, watchtower is big on image and this is one of those teachings that paint the jw religion as being rather kooky and heretical.
secondly, this teaching is not an original watchtower teaching but one they inherited from their second adventist ancestry.
The teaching "Jesus is Michael" soon to go?
What brought that question to your mind all of a sudden?
anyone try to disquise their intellect,???
a lot of us have certain pet phrases, sayings, and opinions.
if you know me you could pick them out.
anyone try to disquise their intellect,??? a lot of us have certain pet phrases, sayings, and opinions. If you know me you could pick them out.
If I'm understanding your comment correctly I'd say you need to relax....I'm guessing you're not as unique or as recognizable as you may think you are.
rip april 22, 1936 – aug.8, 2017 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rucysj4ibwi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etkzk9pxmio https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxojkdqdnbi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/glen_campbell.
JW's love the way it makes them fell more legitimate, when they hear of someone famous "coming into the truth".
When I got baptized at the International Assembly in Vancouver Canada in 1974 when I was 17, there was a rumor flying around that Glen was there and was going to be baptized. People had their songbooks in hand and were looking for him to autograph them. They had to give a special talk about the evils of "idolatry".
